Not a Think Piece, But: Kylie Jenner Has Baby, Seemingly Grows Way Up

She’s super human, not superhuman.

02.05.18

Though I admire the Kardashians’ business savvy and am intrigued by their power to command so much attention, they also, pretty frequently, pluck at my cynicism strings — which is why I was surprised by how I felt after watching Kylie Jenner’s baby announcement video yesterday: touched.

Maybe I felt that way because it contained a poetic arc, beginning with the birth of Kylie, Kris’s last daughter, ending with the birth of the Kardashian-Jenner clan’s newest addition, Kylie’s first daughter. Maybe because it was filmed with the slightly corny aesthetic of a home movie. Maybe because it felt like a triumph that Kylie’s first act as a mother was to write the first chapter of her child’s story exactly as she saw it. Maybe because it felt genuine, and I’m not sure I’ve seen that side of Kylie before, a side in which her fame does not take center-stage: responsibility does.

When I saw it, I clicked the designated link in Kylie’s bio immediately and watched all 11 minutes and 32 seconds of the video entitled “To Our Daughter.” I did this even though I was walking in the rain to an appointment. I bumped into a few passersby staring down at their phones underneath a rainbow of umbrellas, and I wondered if they, too, were eyeballs-deep in the teaser trailer for could have been the most lucrative episode of Keeping Up With the Kardashians to date.

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But there was no episode. As Kylie put it in her Instagram announcement, “there was no gotcha moment, no big paid reveal [she] had planned.” While the reverberation of the news was entirely outside of her control, she was the sole architect of how it was constructed and launched into the world — not E!, not Ryan Seacrest, not even Kris Jenner. Nope: 20-year-old Kylie.

Her age has been a point of contention since the pregnancy rumors first started to swirl, but “To Our Daughter,” though addressed to the newest Kardashian-Jenner family member, seemed to respond indirectly to any negativity that might surround the child post-birth. Look at how well this child will be taken care of emotionally, the video seemed to say as each of Kylie’s friends and extended family members expressed how happy and excited they were to be a part of the baby’s life. Look at how well this child will be taken care of financially, it seemed to say as Kylie flitted through racks of perfect onesies arranged by color and shelves of tiny shoes in an enormous walk-in closet worthy of its own Pinterest board.

Even though the story of Kylie’s pregnancy will be retold, picked apart and written up ten times over, those 11 minutes and 32 seconds will always be hers. That security is a testament to the agency celebrities gain when they cut out the middleman (i.e. gossip magazines or television) and deliver their own version of the story. It is also a significant example of someone who has been extraordinarily famous since her youth, giving birth to someone who will be also be extraordinarily famous since birth, deciding how to share all of this with the world. Whether the touching baby announcement was truly, 100% genuine or a genuine, well-crafted press release, it is an interesting lens through which to examine humanity in the age of mega-fandom. I wonder if it will force us to confront what we mean when we engage with the ideas of celebrity, authenticity, and identity.

Kylie knows exactly how it feels to have 102 million Instagram followers and a net worth of $50 million before she’s old enough to legally drink in America while still maintaining the mushy, unavoidable vulnerability inherent to every human being, no matter how famous. I wonder how that knowledge will inform the way she raises her daughter, especially in an age when people are so eager to attach narratives, even jokingly, to celebrity children (remember Suri’s Burn Book?).

I wonder if it already has. I wonder if that’s what this video was all about.

What do you think?

Photo by Jerod Harris/WireImage via Getty Images. 

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  • Well-writen, thoughtful piece all around, but I think the phrase “eyeballs-deep” shines above all else.

    • Harling Ross

      it’s a phrase i might use TOO often, i regret to report

  • Mellisa Scarlett

    It surprisingly pulled at my heart strings press release or not. I don’t think I’ve invested almost 12mins of my life in any celebrity announcement but this curation got me good.

  • Kattigans

    I hate to admit it but I watched “Life of Kylie”. In the show I saw a really sad, confused girl. Someone who grew up with everything, had no privacy, and was fully immersed in the lifestyle of always being on display. She was born into it but she also plays a role in it continuing to consume her life too. She comes across as a overly sexualized, insecure and confused about who she is as a young woman. I think she’s conflicted. She wants to be visible and invisible at same time. She teeters between embracing fame and also hating her life.

    I can only imagine that yes she probably has a close, loving family and loving friends but part of me think she’s having a baby because she’s bored…is that a rude thing to say? I’m sure the child will be loved but when you’re twenty years old, rich af, and have never experienced life outside of celebrity then really what else is there? I have a lot of issues with the kardashians and think the choice she made to release a video like this is just another stunt. Its cute, but also very intimate for someone who wanted to evade confirming her pregnancy and the fact that people cared so damn much about it? Like what does that say too? I couldn’t even believe it was still a headline because didn’t we already know this? And, why do we even care?

    Its the Kylie Jenner show; let’s not be fooled.

    • Strategically released on Super Bowl Sunday…

      • That’s exactly what I thought when I read that she gave birth, on the first of February.

        • Dymond Moore

          Not saying it wasn’t strategic but maybe she just wanted a few days with her baby alone before it came out officially. Also side note: that first look at chicago west was planned for Kim if not kylie’s benefit.

          • Right, but why not wait one more day then? Everyone knows it’s Super Bowl Sunday, even for non-sports fans (like myself).

      • “no gotcha moment”…..

        • I don’t really believe that.

      • Joh

        What is the significance of this though? Surely the opposite is true?

        • I’d imagine it’s some sort of publicity/marketing ploy, but, being that I am not in marketing, I can’t really say.

      • belle

        This would decrease publicity for her, if anything. Don’t really see the significance.

    • tborges

      I agree with a lot of what you said, but to speculate why another woman would or would not bring a child into this world isn’t up to any of us. It’s a personal choice and she chose to have a child for her own reasons, period. As consumers of the Kardashian Jenner spectacle, we get a lot of things to form opinions about, but let’s not make this choice to have a baby one of them.

      • Kattigans

        If it were anyone else then fine but its my opinion and since their life is so on display I don’t think its totally out of the realm to say out loud.

        • Kattigans

          also, I know its a rude statement, I’m aware and I’m very pro-women doing whatever and it be free from judgement. But she’s twenty years old, on her show she talked about how she broke up with Tyga bc she wanted to be free and live her life but then 4 months later is pregnant? maybe the pregnancy was unplanned and she chose to have it which is totally fine. Maybe it was planned, then whatever. Idc that much. But I also can see the thought process be “oooh babies are cute and I want a baby” know what I mean?

          • Yes, I totally see what you mean and get it.

        • ByeBeckz

          Exactly. Once you put your life on display you can’t exactly get upset when people have opinions. It’s kind of the whole point of putting your life out there…and personally whenever a 20 year old has a baby- I’m going to be confused and wonder why. To each their own, obviously, but still surprising (in my world at least). The vid operated mostly as a publicity stunt to shut down these questions/concerns- noone is going to throw these questions at her NOW that there is a baby. It’s too late and it’s questioning the existence of the baby which is now officially a little human. So really, props to her for making a decision that cuts the convo and questions short.

          ETA: I doubt she’s grown up- I think she just put her life on pause and will be right back where she was within a month, just with the addition of some cute baby pics.

          • Kattigans

            It comes with the territory and as much as I agree “lets all let ppl do what they want free of judgement” life kinda doesn’t work like that especially if you’re a celebrity. And a Kardashian celebrity at that. They’ve made money off exposing their life. Having the world be nosy about your life may not feel fair, and I’m sure it comes with a host of annoyances but its part of the celebrity culture. Also, you can be a celebrity and be a very private person, but that also means that you’re usually known for something other than exposing every inch of your personal life on TV -which is not the ploy the Kardashians have built their empire on. But I digress. Not interested in letting commenters come for me with debates about the Kardashians and their talent level.

            It was a good PR vid to release that shut down all the questions. If I were her, I’d probably have done it too bc she knows that the whole thing will come with a host of questions. IMO nothing about Kylie Jenner is really that real. If she was really concerned about keeping a family moment a private affair then make that video for your family and friends and future daughter. Don’t show the whole world and then get pissed when people go “huh?” – which she tends to do.

    • Jules

      thank you for articulating how I’ve been feeling about this!

      • Rose

        Why does anyone have a baby if not because they’re cute and we just really *feel* like it? There are no noble reasons to have children. We have them because we want them, or we want it more than not-having them.

        • True, but to Kattigan’s point, is she making a mature decision? Is she just going to get bored of this new “phase” in her life, as 20-year-olds are known to do? You can’t just grow out of a baby/your responsibilities to your child… I agree in that we don’t have children out of necessity anymore, but I do think there are good, logical reasons/times to have children, and then… not so good, illogical reasons. My overall thought in commenting here is that ultimately, I just want her baby to get the love, patience, knowledge, etc. that she deserves, and to not get thrown to the wayside if her mother decides that this whole “motherhood thing” isn’t to her liking after all…

        • Kattigans

          This comment was probably meant to be profound but it made me laugh. If anyone’s main motivation to have a baby is because they are cute then seek some therapy or get a dog. Hate to be a cynic.

          Sure no **noble** reason to have children but having a kid isn’t a decision to take lightly and I’d hope someone would be motivated to become a parent other than because they’re narcissistic and vain or think it’d be fun. You are raising a human being after all, right?

          • jdhammer

            At the risk of veering further off-topic- what are the reasons for having a baby other than ‘it would be fun’ or ‘I feel like I want one’?

          • Kattigans

            I don’t think its very important to answer that question in order to support my argument and points bc people have children for a multitude of reasons. Sometimes for not very good reasons IMO or sometimes for no reason that can be well articulated. After all, its a personal choice that doesn’t have to be answered for. But for the sake of your question – doing it bc you think it’d be fun to try (which is what I wrote) to me is a not a very good one. If my friend came to me and said “I want to have a baby because I think it’d be fun to do” then trust me I would be concerned. Context is key, but yes I would have concerns around her motives and be concerned that she wasn’t making a choice that was fully fleshed out. This is a hypothetical scenario and of course could play out many different ways IRL.

            I think if you’re mindset is “I only want to have a baby for the fun/cute/dress up/X moments” or doing it because you feel like you want someone to love you well then you’re about to be in a for a wild, unrealistic ride. Ultimately thats a pretty superficial reason to have a baby for the amount of shit you’ll go through, especially if you are a single mother. For sure, part of your reason can be I think it would be fun (and fun is subjective), but I think most parents would say that there is some really hard shit that goes on + mental limits that you’re pushed to while raising a child, so it’d be beneficial to have a more realistic/holistic outlook on what motivates you to raise one other than the reasons I’ve listed above. So I’ll turn the question back on you- what do you think is a good reason/s to have a baby?

          • jdhammer

            0 reasons. That’s why I don’t have one.
            I don’t feel like I want one and I don’t think it will be cute. I’m genuinely curious why people do it other than those two reasons.
            Let me expand them though:
            Feel it = biological need, innate desire. You have it or you don’t, I’m sure it’s not logical
            Think it’s cute = that could encompass wanting a mini-me, thinking it would be fun to teach a person stuff, having something cute to love.
            I don’t want wither of those things and I see no other reasons to make a person!

          • Rubylouise

            Actually I think the point was to make you laugh 🙂 Millions of people have unplanned babies every year. I wasn’t ‘planned’ even though my parents were married. I think the comments about the way Kylie released the video are important for highlighting how celebrity culture operates, but not a lot beyond. Who cares about the reasons why she decided to have the baby – she’s had it.To say”because she’s in the public eye, so I can judge her” is lazy.
            She’s worth, what, $50 milliion? Does your opinion, in the grand scheme of things, really matter? Probably not. She has the finances to provide for her kid, which probably makes her a better parent than most to begin with. Having a kid should be fun – if they weren’t, people wouldn’t have them (Sorry Harling, your article was amazing in trying to re-frame from this kind of ‘think piece’ atmosphere, but here everyone is, thinkin away)

          • Kattigans

            Its lazy to judge someone who’s in the public eye? I have never said “she’s in the public so I can judge her”..I’ve pretty much said how its a rude statement that I made but thats how I thought of this whole spectacle which it totally has been even if she denied being pregnant for 9 months. That in and of itself is weird to me. Why flat out deny a pregnancy for 9 months? Why not own it and then move on and be private after being like “yeah guys I’m pregnant and I’m going to be stepping away to give myself some time to enjoy this time”.

            “She’s worth, what, $50 milliion? Does your opinion, in the grand scheme of things, really matter? Probably not.” –> Lol, okay. Did I say my opinion mattered? No I didn’t. I’m not delusional and nor do I really care that much why she’s having a baby. I stated what I thought and there was a grander point that I was making beyond “I believe she had a baby for X reason.” I’m commenting on how she comes across to me as a person in the things I’ve seen her do/say and how she portrays herself and how I see a baby in the grand scheme of her weird ass life at 20 years old.

            This conversation has delved into being pretty effing stupid to me. I don’t need to be explained why people have children – its a personal choice and it really doesn’t have to be answered for. If someone has an unplanned pregnancy and has the child good for them! Idc. I’ve been pregnant before. So please stop with the condescending tones about pregnancy, and choices and whatever else like I really care or am so inept to understand the concept.

          • Kattigans

            See my clarification above. I don’t feel like zeroing in and re-explaning myself. FYI you’re on a comments section for an article about KJ so isn’t the point to share opinions? Who cares if my opinion matters or not, clearly I’m not far off base for feeling how I do because others here agree.

            And being a celebrity doesn’t make you immune to judgement or criticism. That’s called life. I’m not judging her unfairly or unreasonably because I’m basing my opinion off her own actions, statements, and cultivated image. My speculations could be wrong and that’s fine. Idc that much. Have a baby because you want to for whatever reason – that’s not the point I’m making. I’ve been pregnant and understand the weight of emotion that goes into. I don’t appreciate being preached at as if I’ve said some blasphemous thing when all I’ve insiuated is that maybe “she’s having a baby to fill a void”. There are plenty of people who that – hello, have you watched teen mom and seen the emotional maturity that’s gone into deciding to proceed in the pregnancies that go on on that show? This is not some uncommon thought process at all but doesn’t mean I can’t have an opinion on it or share my personal perspective on the matter.

          • Kattigans

            Also, not a comment about whether motherhood/parenthood should be fun or not. I know plenty of people personally who will say that its not always been fun. Some people who even regret having children, but love them dearly nonetheless. Like my stepmom.

          • Kattigans

            I wanted to address one other thing you said. “She has the finances to provide for her kid, which probably makes her a better parent than most to begin with” –> Totally not true or indicative of how a child will turn out. And that’s not a very good reason either to have a child “oooh I can afford one so lets do it!”. Yeah that sounds well thought out and like someone who really understand the weight of the decision. Also how many rich people do we see in the media, know irl, and hear about who are totally effed up even after being given everything they’ve ever wanted. Ironically, isn’t that kinda what happened to the Kardashian/jenner clan? Having money doesn’t mean anything other than you’ll be shielded from some terrible circumstances that make growing up that much more challenging, which obviously is a very privileged way to live.

    • This makes me sad, but feels very accurate to what she’s exposed as her personality in the past. I commend her for keeping her pregnancy private and wanting the best for her health and wellness, but part of me feels like she wants to be her older sisters (who are, or becoming, moms). I suppose when you’ve grown up in such a crazy, over exposed household, you must feel ten years older than you are though.

      • Kattigans

        That’s the vibe I get too. The girls in the video saying “Kylie’s wanted to be a mom since she was 15″…uh that was 5 years ago! It’s bizarre and weird to me. Feels all very staged. Be private about the pregnancy but the outright denial when people pretty much already knew is weird. Why not just address it, rather than hiding it (that must have been even more stressful)? Its weird and feels calculated for whatever reason. But who am I to judge? **shrugs**

    • Lil

      110% agreed. Kylie’s video touched me, but also it made me feel weirdly sad for her… Because I’m sure this pregnancy was wanted&planned. Let’s be real, she probably had the best, symptom free birth control money could by – and abortion could easly have been option (assuming she’s pro choice and celebrities often get checked up ny doctors frequently, since them just being alive employs so many people).

      To be 20 and want a child shows that Kylie’s very displaced and has done everything there is to do in life. Kylies been quoted as saying motherhood will be the one thing to make her feel normal

      • Kattigans

        Thank you! I’m getting so much flack on her for a comment about how she comes across to me and how I think that translates into her **potential** view about having a baby. Have a baby for whatever gd reason you want, idc! She doesn’t seem like a “mature” person to be and therefore I can see her decision to have a child as one made for superficial reasons or for purely emotional reasons. But who really knows- its all speculation on my behalf based on how she behaves and portrays herself.

        “Kylies been quoted as saying motherhood will be the one thing to make her feel normal” –> sums it up perfectly for me. That is absolutely delusional and crazy to me. That’s not a reason to have a baby and if other commenters on here think its is well then we just will have to agree to disagree. It has nothing to do with the child being loved, financially cared for and whatnot but all parents leave some imprint on their children and their psyches. Having a child to feel normal says more about what she’s searching for and a baby is not a way to cope with that. Therapy is.

      • belle

        To be fair, Kourtney had an unplanned pregnancy – she missed one pill. Quality healthcare is unfortunately a privilege and not a right, but wealth does not exempt you from mistakes.

    • Kattigans

      I want to make some clarifications on this comment because I seem to be getting so much flack from some in the MR community. I am not judging why she may or may not be having a baby. She’s free to make whatever choice she wants and she already has. I am just commenting that I don’t think she is a very mature person who is making a decision or made a decision bc she is mature –> the decision being having a baby and then subsequently releasing a video that personally creeped me out. Nothing this family does is real. They’ve shown that. Even when they’re being “real”, its calculated. Its curated ALL the time. This video is just that to me.
      As an aside, Denying a pregnancy for 9 months is weird to me, even if its for privacy reasons.

      Kylie Jenner has said and done things that put her life out there for public consumption. Her entire family, including her, are social media queens. She was taking sexualized selfies when she was 16. She wants attention even if she doesn’t want it or know how to handle it bc the constant attention may overwhelm her. But she controls her “brand” and her image. It was Kris Jenner is known for. They are marketing geniuses.

      And for what she has put out there, especially with her show, is that she isn’t someone who has a whole lot of depth to her beyond selfies, spending time with her friends and buying lots of dogs. And thats okay – she’s twenty. Who was super deep and emotionally mature at twenty, even when we may have felt like we were? She has shown that she’s insecure, somewhat vapid and very image conscience/ driven. Having a baby, to me, feels like she has experienced so much of the creme de la creme and I can see her being bored with her life. I think she is searching for something to fill a void and I can very well see her romanticizing motherhood. It’s pretty easy to do when you’re this rich and have played aunty all you’re life. I could see the decision as one that seems purely “fun” to her and not understand the full magnitude of the decision. This is just an opinion and all speculation. Its not a comment on the child being cared for or loved, but there are times in life when some people are not ready to be parents and she doesn’t come across to me as ready. That’s all.

      • Agnes

        Could it be that it was unplanned and she doesn’t believe in abortion, so is making the best of what happened? Just sayin’.. another angle to consider. You’re right, we don’t know, and we’re all entitled to speculate. That’s what celebrity culture does, it makes us think and debate the bigger issues.. her life is her life, none of us are with her 24/7. Story is probably A LOT different than what they are actually showing.

        • Kattigans

          I’ve acknowledged that in other comments. It being planned or not does not change from my perspective of whether she’s shown that she’e emotionally mature to have to have a child or not. I’ve seen online that it wasn’t planned but again not the point I’m making. Harling’s article is making a comment about KJ’s maturity level and I’m in disagreement with that.

          • belle

            If nothing the family does is real, then how can we judge her mothering ability if we don’t know her personally? How do you know she wants attention when she says she doesn’t want it?

            It was not that long ago that eighteen year olds were getting married and having babies like it was no big deal. Her whole family has small children and more on the way. I personally know people who got pregnant younger than Kylie, and while it wasn’t financially ideal everything worked out. Obviously Kylie is insanely privileged but still – she can’t win. If she posted photos and videos throughout her pregnancy, people could say she’s shilling or trying to get attention. When she goes through it privately, she’s “denying her pregnancy” and putting out a creepy video.

            Make no mistake, this is not the hill I choose to die on. But all this talk following the video seems silly.

          • Kattigans

            You’re late to the convo, girl. I’ve made my points loud and clear in other comments to other users. Please back it up especially if this is not the hill you chose to die on. You’re engaging in the talk so does that make you silly too? Don’t agree with how I see it, idc. We’re not talking about 18 year olds having children back in 1975. Harling’s article is about KJ’s maturity level for posting a video documenting the pregnancy to the entire world and I’ve given my reason why I don’t buy it. 18 year olds may have been having babies way back when and they’re still doing it – make no mistake. The US has the highest rate of teen pregnancy in the Western world…age ain’t no thang (there are immature 40 year olds too) but I can tell you there are plenty of women who weren’t ready to have kids at 18 and aren’t ready to do it now. And that’s not a far fetched thing to say or think at all. I can make a comment about someone’s maturity level based off what I’ve seen and witnessed. That’s all I have to work with and yes, fully aware I don’t know these people. Not the point.

            If nothing the family does is real, then how can we judge her mothering ability if we don’t know her personally? —> Real meaning intentions behind posting a video. I’m judging her personality based off what she shares, what she put on a TV show about her life and the way she chooses to interact with the world. Sue me. I don’t think their marketing tactics come from a genuine, “real”, authentic place and I know I’m not the only one who feels that way. Case closed.

          • Kattigans

            And by ready to have a child I mean: emotionally, mentally, financially. Adults are free to make their own choices so by all means if you want to have a baby, planned or not, then that’s a private matter. I think we can agree most 18 year olds are immature and would be better off, given the opportunity, to learn to take care of themselves and not have to worry about an infant. Also, many young women married and had children young in previous decades because they either a) had no choice and b) social pressures coupled with sexist roles/expectations for women made it totally acceptable and desirable for women to marry young and start having babies. Same as most women in those circumstances were discouraged from pursuing education and work outside of the home. We live in a different time and I’d hope that with all the opportunities afforded now to women in this country and the opportunities that we’re fighting for that we wouldn’t glorify the overly sexualized, unintelligent, sexist representation of womanhood/female hood that the Kardashians push through into mainstream media. They are free to make whatever choice they want and I’ve never said otherwise, but given their position in society and the images they cultivate in the public eye I don’t think its unfair for me to be critical of their behavior and choices because they do have a ripple effect for influencing many people who idolize them or aspire to replicate their lifestyle/image.

          • belle

            Good lord, not “late to the convo,” just don’t have the energy to read endless clarifications about why you don’t think Kylie Jenner is mature enough to have a child. You asked if your comment was rude and people told you it was. I don’t agree or see what the big deal is (and not sure what I’m meant to be “backing up”) but since you clearly care I’ll reiterate that this is not something I feel that strongly about – you might want to google the idiom since it sounds like it was taken to mean the opposite. Talking about Kylie IS silly, and I do not exempt myself from that. Other’s comments are not a personal attack on you. The frenzied responses, think pieces (like this one) and discussions about the Kardashians are more absurd than the family themselves.

          • Kattigans

            Wow. You don’t have time to read my responses but jump and scroll through the comments to write back to me on specific posts to other people? And “back it up” means “check yourself”. “you might want to google the idiom since it sounds like it was taken to mean the opposite.” —> condescending much? Do you think I don’t understand nuance or what figure of speeches are? Good lord to you too.

    • belle

      If I were a twenty year old millionaire I could think of a lot of things to do besides have a baby…I’m guessing the pregnancy was unplanned but she has a huge family and all the baby cousins are about the same age (and multiple sisters having kids at the same time) so it makes sense that she’d take the chance, even if it were an accident. She’s been talking about wanting kids for a while.

      Of course she puts her life up for display (it is her livelihood) but it still seems narrow minded to suggest that she had a child because she’s bored. She is still a person.

      • Kattigans

        Belle, I’ve already explained the comment and the intention behind it. She’s been quoted in media saying that being a mom would be the one thing that helps her feel normal. That being the case, I don’t think what I wrote was narrow minded especially w/ how I’ve expanded on it in other comments. She can’t put a band aide on how she feels deep down inside about herself and her life. No baby will fix that. She needs therapy if she doesn’t already have that in her life.

        Anyways, she did the d**n thing and I could care less the circumstance of how or if the baby was planned or unplanned. Not my point. I’m commenting on her state of mind based on what she’s put out there and trust me it hasn’t done her favors in showing that she’s a mature, rational adult. I don’t think making her living being on display has done her psyche any favors.

        I’ve also been pregnant before so believe me I know the emotion that happens when you are. Either way she made a choice, Harling posted an article and I commented on it with an opinion. Its a comment section, that’s what happens.

  • Adrianna

    Man, the Kardashians/Jenners have done it again. Why are people tearing up over this video? Am I the only one who knows women who have had children by age 20? Do you know how long it takes to edit and piece together a 12 minute video like that? It’s not a coincidence that it was posted on Super Bowl Sunday, when Americans are sitting around on their phones. I can see that keeping the pregnancy private is a sign of maturity, but she still created a social media moment for all of us to talk about…

  • Louise Rhodes

    I found it very touching initially, and I do understand her decision to keep her pregnancy private – I gave birth to my son last year after years of not wanting children, so I deliberately kept my pregnancy off my social media because I couldn’t face dealing with all the ‘knew you’d change your mind!’ comments. I ended up doing a pregnancy post when I was around 6 months, mainly because friends were starting to get twitchy in case they slipped up! Obviously I’m a different case to Ms Jenner because I’m not, you know, ridiculously rich and famous, but I can’t help looking at the whole thing with side-eye…nothing that family does is ever without potential for financial gain. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7cbd9975d1300002d0ba21eddc894a5df895e74617f967317cf4302ad4945f91.png

    • Adrianna

      I know I’m supposed to congratulate you on your human baby, but I also have (serve as staff to?) a Tuxedo cat, so I must say your baby is adorable.

      • jugarboo

        “Serve as staff to” is how I will refer to my relationship with my two cats from now on. That made me lol.

        • Adrianna

          Happy to hear it! I’m a big cat lady, and I kind of love that cats just expect you to get up at their beck and call

      • Louise Rhodes

        That’s the perfect way of describing my relationship with that cat (to give her her full title, Her Imperial Highness Joan Holloway Rita) xx

        • Adrianna

          Joan! Tux’s previous owners weren’t very creative, but he responds to that name

    • Harling Ross

      i love this

      • Louise Rhodes

        Omg Harling Ross I love you more .

  • Lexi Sugar

    This is PERFECTION. It so whimsically encapsulates all of our thoughts throughout this important time in history.

  • Korynty

    She got knocked up by Travis Scott , a guy who was never officially presented as her official / serious bf. They had to make it look good and work hard on that. They managed very well to do so, also to announce it now that she’s given birth will calm the press/haters down: they won’t “shame” her, they’ll just praise her, like you all are already doing. Confused as to why everyone seems to find her “genius” to have released this video. She has a whole team behind her and just *had* to do this… ugh

    • Jessica S

      exactly…I feel like this video had more to do with them painting her and Travis in a better light than it did with ~*sharing her journey with her fans*~. They haven’t even been dating a full year yet…Something tells me this was not planned at all, but Kylie was all about having a baby and Travis just had to suck it up and take one for the team lol.

      • Kattigans

        so true. Its a press stunt like everything they do. She went in hiding not for privacy reason but probably bc her and her team knew it looked bad. Like everyone knew she was pregnant, why not just own it and then move on. Acknowledgment doesn’t mean she can’t go off the grid after that but its kinda weird to have her family lie and deny it. Isn’t that more stressful? This whole thing actually makes my skin crawl.

  • Sarah

    I’m continually surprised by the vitriol people seem to have for the Kardashians/Jenners. For Kylie, I mostly just feel sympathy. If they choose to market their lives successfully – I wouldn’t do it, I don’t agree with all of their values or the emphasis on physical beauty they’re encouraging in society, but in the famous words of Amy Poehler: ‘good for her, not for me.’ I just wonder if a family of all men would face the same harshness for running a similar business empire.

    Anyway, I think it must have been very confusing for Kylie to grow up surrounded by media and fame and I think the decision to handle this pregnancy as she did was very mature and human of her — great point that all that fame does not deprive her of human vulnerability.

    • mags

      I don’t think the hostility towards the Kardashians/Jenners is so much about what they choose to do or who they actually are, but a product of the contempt people feel towards a society that has allowed them to flourish in this way. It may not be fair, but I can’t say I’m surprised.

  • Ana Maia

    it honestly felt nice to see a kardashian/jenner in a more organic and genuine light. for me, kylie used to be all about different coloured hair, selfies with cars and designer clothes – very superficial, things that are nice to look at but dont create emotional meaning. so i hope having the baby changes her whole aesthetic (which may be naive of me but whatever). this reminded me of when beyonce had blue ivy and her aesthetic also changed into something organic, simpler.

  • kevynryan

    Maybe I’m just jealous of her well taken care of child and the idea of limitless wealth on some level (ignoring for a moment the costs of that wealth, and also what happens when a person born into fame opts to evade it – look no further than Rob Kardashian), but for me and this video, cynicism didn’t creep in. I’m not here to judge someone’s imperfect route to bringing a kid into the world, but bored or not, this kid has a brood of loving women around her. They’re all going to be fine.

  • Jessica Downing

    I loved how she handled everything and also thought it showed how she’s grown up through this experience. To me, the video made her seem a lot more “human” and less celebrity and I really enjoyed it!

    • Koko

      Great that’s exactly the message they tried so hard to pass in this video lol

  • Sarah

    Hi all. I’ve never really felt conflicted about the k/j family. Like many I just don’t like them because I struggle with the concept of vanity and vancuousness being so successful. It makes me sick about the world a bit like climate change, a sad horrible fact that we will never beat. This girl has brought another unsuspecting victim/ benefactor of this illness to life to perpetuate it all. Then I see virtuous incredible women like Queen Rania of Jordan, with the face of an angel and the wardrobe of my dreams and I just cannot help but wonder why we bother with these tired pathetic examples and why are we not talking about the incredible intelligent and insping examples that we could be proud to follow.?? Let’s change the conversations of young women! Let’s do some good.

    • I agree to an extent but they literally represent a human-primal desire. They are the epitomine of “feminine” whether it’s fake or not. Not to sound all sciency and serious but every feature they have (or paid for) is a scientific formula for sexual attraction = fertility. We are hardwired to notice people like that and they just keep giving it to us. Women like the Kardashians will ALWAYS have a platform for as long as human desire to have kids exists. Before it was Kardashians, it was Victoria secret models and Kate Moss, before it them it was Marilyn Monroe, before it was her is Marie Antionette (sp?), before it was her is was Cleopatra so I’m not too caught up over it. I feel like Kardashians should have a platform as much as the Queen of Jordan but big up the virtious women just as much!

  • ValiantlyVarnished

    I loved the video. And I have a lot of respect for how she chose to keep her pregnancy private and release info the way she wanted to – with no monetary or media involvement.

  • I’ve always thought that her life must have been quite hard. She’s been in the spotlight since forever and it must have been difficult to grow up that way. She’s incredibly rich but money can’t buy everything and the fact that she changed her physical appearance a lot proves that she wasn’t happy about herself.

    I appreciate that she decided to keep such an important part of her life very private, but I also think, like other people wrote, that this family monetizes everything so I’m not sure that this isn’t just another marketing strategy, after all the baby was born on February, 1 and they announced her birth on the day of the Super Bowl.

    The video is nice, I guess it took hours and hours of editing to make it look like an ordinary family’s video.

    • I agree that the plastic surgery reveals a lot of insecurity, and in general just too young! I didn’t know anything at 20, and I’m still learning. But I guess we’re all different…

      Eva | http://www.shessobright.com

      • She’s 20 now and she started making some changes a couple of years ago, if I’m not wrong. I’m not judging her, I think it must have been hard to be considered not as attractive/sexy as Kendall or Kim. I feel like she tried to become so similar to Kim that they almost look the same age.
        Life is hard when you are a teenager, we all know it. I often felt insicure about myself, so growing up constantly exposed, spied and judged must be awful. She has a lot of privileges but for sure her life has not been a bed of roses.
        I hope she’ll keep her baby girl far from the madness of the show business.

  • TK

    I think she made the best choice for everyone. From the one hand she gave herself space away from social media for 9 months and gave herself an authentic platform to deliver the news the way she wanted. From the other hand, she gave us the news. Realistically, it would be known that she gave birth and as February approached, paparazzi and media would be restless till the announcement. Also, I think the ‘Super Bowl’ thing is irrelevant. Kylie can publish deep 3am a turtle dancing and gain 1 mil likes. I mean thats the international platform that she has. For her being ‘extra’ I think the announcement was low-key, the video super-cute and cheesy and I bought every second of it. She made a mature choice.

    • Renata

      Couldn’t agree more!

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  • Kalina Dimitrova

    You somehow managed to put my exact thoughts into words. Thank you for this article!

  • Shelby Kate

    My sister last year lost her baby at 37 weeks and our family was absolutely heart broken to say the least I’ve never in my life cried harder or grieved harder than I did when that whole experience happened to us. To think that someone like Kylie gets to have as much privilege AND have a happy healthy baby just isn’t fair. I genuinely hope that she ACTUALLY turns into a mom because to think of this baby as some type of prop/press tool actually makes my skin crawl and blood boil.

  • Jessica S

    The video was cute, but you can definitely tell they were trying to flip the narrative of her being pregnant at 20 by a dude she was dating for a couple of months into a more “look! we actually really care about each other and are fully prepared for this mentally (and financially), so everything’s gonna be ok, now lets all move on! :D” situation.

  • mags

    “… they also, pretty frequently, pluck at my cynicism strings — which is why I was surprised by how I felt after watching Kylie Jenner’s baby announcement video yesterday: touched.” I think your cynicism strings are in need of some fine tuning 😉

    But in all seriousness, I have mixed feelings about this article, and the video itself. On one hand, the fact everyone has an opinion on who should have a child and how that child should be raised is exactly what makes an individual’s right to choose such an important and beautiful personal freedom. On the other hand, Kylie is in a very unique situation in that the public’s opinion will hugely affect her and her child’s future in a couple of ways: her livelihood and (even moreso) their experiences. The same experiences that have made many people, myself included, feel sympathetic towards her. Tbh the more I think about it, the more guilty I feel for clicking this article, watching the video, and writing this comment.

    Also, for the little it’s worth, my reaction to those clips of Kylie’s friends talking about her pregnancy was definitely less, “Aww, how sweet,” and more along the lines of, “[insert expletive here].” Sitting around being interviewed in matching silky outfits, queuing up to have a photoshoot with the expectant mother, and having hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of plastic surgery may not make someone a bad mother or determine the quality of her support group, but it absolutely does not mean a child will be “supported emotionally” in my book.

    • pamb

      The only defense of the matching outfits is because those clips were taken at Kylie’s baby shower, which had a ‘pajama’ theme. And I’m sorry I know that, by osmosis, since I don’t even watch any of the Kardashian shows. I just came for the think piece and the comments 😉

  • elpug

    I’m just surprised people in nyc watch videos while walking!

    • Harling Ross

      it was ill-advised!

  • Bee

    All I can say is that it was a really sweet video and it seems obvious that this little girl is going to be very, very loved and supported. That’s kind of all that matters, right?

  • this is was the sweetest story about this subject. thank you

  • YT

    i liked the vid! I am not really a super fan of hers but I def thought it was sweet and felt honest

  • Ktt

    When kris says she has so much to teach Kylie’s baby — I was just thinking “KRIS TEACH US ALLLLLLL”

    • Harling Ross

      hahahah

  • I feel the same Harling. Touched by her video, but also confused about why I’m watching a video that is basically selling me Kylie at the same time. It very well could be anyone’s home video – just with better editing – and that left me feeling frustrated by the obsession with this family given that they are pretty much famous for being famous. That being said, it was moving that she decided to keep out of sight of the public for that long, and make me think that perhaps she’s moved beyond being famous and into a place where her home life and privacy matter more.

    Eva | http://www.shessobright.com

  • jdhammer

    I loved the video then hated myself for loving a video about a strangers baby.
    I will say that family videos, well edited are an amazing gift to your future self, to see those moments and hear those voices years from now. Yes, she could have kept it personal but she’s letting us in on the family album as per the brand.

  • Al Green

    I just think it’s important to point out that if she were not in this very, very particular financial situation (that being INSANE UNIMAGINABLE WEALTH), she would not be able to romanticize this baby.
    Her fame and wealth have probably made her more mature than the average 20 year old and yet further disconnected from reality and society. Like many have said before – this duality makes it hard to judge her decision. The only thing I feel we can truly critique is how her privilege allows her to fluctuate between innocence and maturity without consequence.

    I’m 23. My boyfriend is 21. We’re pretty well off, circumstancially speaking, but if we had a baby our entire lives would change. Kylie’s life will change, yes, but she can afford top-tier child care probably including a full-time nanny to take on vacations. She will still be able to afford designer clothing for her self and her infant. She will never stress about rent, food, or health insurance. All of that needs to be taken into account as we asses whatever the f this means for our current cultural moment.

    • Elizabeth

      Yeah, I was talking on Sunday about how she’s just so young and one of my friends made such a good point. So many people hold off on having children until they’re in a place when they can afford a nice home in a safe area with a big backyard and good schools and all that, when they have options for childcare (whether that’s family or paid), when they can afford the crazy costs of pregnancy & childbirth alone, when taking maternity leave won’t get side eyed since they’ve only been at their job for a year…the average person doesn’t have that at age 20, but Kylie? Yup, all of it.

  • marybold

    seems like the people who don’t care for Kylie and her family are doing most of the posting here,

  • kelleylynn

    This article bummed me out, as well as the subsequent comments.

    On the one hand, it feels disingenuous to try and empathize with the Kardashian/Jenner clan, because no matter how kind and compassionate we are, one cannot genuinely say they are “just like us”. There is absolutely a massive chasm of separation between their human experience and most of ours. Still human, yes, but wildly, incoherently different. These types of attempts to connect with the Kardashians and bring them down to earth, if you will, seem like massive, rose-colored overcorrections.

    It also feels needlessly cruel to have a basket full of unsolicited and frankly irrelevant negative opinions about the choices of these women. Like, why?

    They are not like us, their experiences are not like ours, and spending mental energy trying to validate or invalidate their lives seems like such a massive waste of time. Yikes, this comment is a waste of time. Nothing means anything!

    I’m feeling like the only proper response to celebrity (especially this particular brand of it) is just pure and utter apathy. 🤷‍♀️

    • Kattigans

      They influence culture, whether we like it or not. I don’t most people who have critical thinking skills view them in the same vein as any ordinary person or thinks they are just like us. I don’t think the critical comments on here are out of line. The article is about Kylie’s maturity for posting this video and keeping her pregnancy underwraps. What they do has MAJOR influence even if you and I are don’t subscribe but they do have a ripple effect and so to make comments about Kylie’s maturity in respect to her having a child at 20 doesn’t come out of left field.

      It also feels needlessly cruel to have a basket full of unsolicited and frankly irrelevant negative opinions about the choices of these women. Like, why? –> cruel? Cruel to comment on the Kardashian’s…are you kidding? These women make a living off being extra and in the public eye. It may not be fair but these ladies aren’t private citizens walking down the street.

      This “whole what is life”, “why even bother” thought process is exactly how people like this get famous and influence the very cultural thinking we’re living in today. They’re glamorizing the pregnancy of a 20 year old girl and fortunately for her she happens to be financially well off. But is she emotionally well off? I don’t think so and it has nothing to with her choosing to have a baby or not. I don’t care about the choice she made and why – that’s her own damn business but she’s also letting the world in on it. So I don’t think its unfair to speculate that she isn’t emotionally ready and this video release isn’t a sign a maturation, but a PR move.

      To be remotely repulsed by the entire spectacle is not cruel or abnormal. No one is invalidating her, but its concerning bc her choices and the things she puts out there do influence girls who look up to her and want to emulate her.

    • Kattigans

      One additional comment, teen pregnancy in the US is the highest of all industrialized nations. There are many factors contributing to this of course, but I think I can have reason to be concerned when a young, highly influential pregnant celebrity is glamorizing her experience as she did in that video. The video’s content is not a sign of maturation, but over the top display.

  • pamb

    What strikes me is this: there were no paparazzi shots of Kylie pregnant. Which proves that she, and any celeb, can live a quiet life IF THEY CHOOSE. So no more complaints of “the press doesn’t leave me alone!” You call them to come, you want them there, you acknowledge that you enjoy it.

    Also, the baby is one day old. Kylie will have plenty of nannies as well as friends and family to help her, which is great. But “seemingly grows up” because of one video? Come on now.

  • Heather14731

    Just like the line “be better than the Gap,” be better than writing about the Kardashians.

  • Aoedele

    I thought the video was sweet and showed celebs do have some control of their publicity/narrative. Kylie always struck me as being extremely sensitive and caring too much what people think of her, choosing to keep her pregnancy publicity and stress proves that. Good for her.

  • I’m 25 now and can easily say that when I was in college-hell, even high school- I thought I was way older than I actually was. I look at 20 year olds now and they seem so young to me. Kylie has so much plastic surgery that I forget she’s that young, and it IS young. It’s not me attacking her, it’s a fact. I don’t want to throw around the “privilege” card but how many 20 year olds who have children aren’t struggling a little both mentally and financially? What about all the girls who get pregnant before marriage by either their boyfriends or strangers and they’re labeled as “slu**” and “whor**”? It’s not a matter of if the baby will be raised well- it helps a ton to have that financial support as well as a large family mostly made up of women who have already gone through the child bearing process- but once again, she’s in the spotlight for something that ordinary girls go through and sometimes struggle with every day. I don’t see what makes her circumstance so special other than the fact that she’s famous.

    • Kattigans

      THANK YOU!!!

  • Kattigans

    I want to make some clarifications on my original comment because I seem to be getting so much flack from some in the MR community. I am not judging why she may or may not be having a baby. She’s free to make whatever choice she wants and she already has. I am just commenting that I don’t think she is a very mature person who is making a decision or made a decision bc she is mature –> the decision being having a baby and then subsequently releasing a video that personally creeped me out. Nothing this family does is real. They’ve shown that. Even when they’re being “real”, its calculated. Its curated ALL the time. This video is just that to me.
    As an aside, Denying a pregnancy for 9 months is weird to me, even if its for privacy reasons.

    Kylie Jenner has said and done things that put her life out there for public consumption. Her entire family, including her, are social media queens. She was taking sexualized selfies when she was 16. She wants attention even if she says she doesn’t want it or says she doesn’t know how to handle it bc the constant attention may overwhelm her. But she controls her “brand” and her image. Thats what Kris Jenner is known for as well. They are marketing geniuses.

    And for what she has put out there, especially with her show, its that she isn’t someone who has a whole lot of depth to her beyond selfies, spending time with her friends and buying lots of dogs. And thats okay – she’s twenty. Who was super deep and emotionally mature at twenty, even when we may have felt like we were? She has shown that she’s insecure, somewhat vapid and very image conscience/ driven. Having a baby, to me, feels like she has experienced so much of the creme de la creme and I can see her being bored with her life. I think she is searching for something to fill a void and I can very well see her romanticizing motherhood. It’s pretty easy to do when you’re this rich and have played aunty all your life. I could see the decision as one that seems purely “fun” to her and not understand the full magnitude of the decision. This is just an opinion and all speculation. Its not a comment on the child being cared for or loved, but there are times in life when some people are not ready to be parents and she doesn’t come across to me as ready. That’s all.

    • you elaborated a lot on what I said in my below comment. it’s not that I’m questioning the well being of the child- I have no doubt in my mind that it will be raised well- but with that being said, just because a child grows up in a great environment doesn’t always mean that the mother is completely ready for the responsibility. Kylie is lucky that she’s extremely financially stable and has a group of women around her that she can lean on if things get tough. not a lot of people have the same privilege.

      • Kattigans

        I agree. She’s also twenty and in a relationship with someone she’s dated for less than a year. Thats a lot to take on at a young age even with a great family support system surrounding you. I hope it all works out well and I’m sure it will but to praise her like she’s an emotionally mature person? Well jury is still out on that one. To each their own. Its just my perspective.

  • Elizabeth Beanland

    “Eyeballs-deep.” Is that Oxford’s Phrase of the Year? It should be.

  • her net worth is $50 million? wow and she really isn’t legally able to drink yet
    what am i doing with my life lol
    malinda
    http://www.malindaknowles.net

  • NuclearSister

    I was in agreement until she named the baby Stormi and now her immaturity seems obvious again.

    • likedolphinscanswim

      Mmm, but Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin calling their kid Apple is just as idiotic, so..

  • Laura

    I think the way she approached the publicity surrounding her pregnancy and birth of her daughter was done exactly this way BECAUSE she is 20. Think about this, she is a 20 year old who has many tween, teen, and early twenty something followers. Her followers snatch up every product she puts out, and emulate everything she wears and does. Could you imagine her posing on Instagram everyday in some pregnancy selfie? Promoting products for the pregnant woman and mother to be? Next thing you know, you have a boom of pregnant tweens, teens and 20 year olds doing the same. This klan is calculated about everything. Something to think about.

  • rachel

    I don’t have particularly strong feeling on the Kardashian-Jenner family or the video, but was anyone else blow away by how much Kylie looks like Kris at the beginning? Like, for a second I thought that was old video of when Kris was pregnant with Kendall and Kylie. Talk about strong genes!

  • karina

    how was the video beautiful? it was the dumbest most disturbing thing I’ve ever watched. ‘kylie was meant to be a mom!! she wanted to be a mom since she was 15’ like what? LMAO. i think kylie has mental issues, and im surprised you all fell for that video! if she didnt make the video, she would’ve gotten way more hate. hiding from everyone and making that video made her pregnancy seem more ‘okay’ she got you guys lol. This girl just met her boyfriend and knew him for 2 months before getting prego by him. I doubt that relationship will last, you never truly know anyone… but for someone to let a random guy impregnate them after 2months is straight nonsense lol. they will not last ahahahaha kris and the entire family is fucked up

  • Aydan

    but is she actually emotionally ready?? Not to say anything about those who have children young, but even though she was “forced to grow up fast” I just don’t know how a 20 year old has the same kind of maturity as even some just a couple years older. Kylie’s life might be her life, but what about education? civics? etc.? will this child learn anything like that? Either way, I hope she steps up for the challenge