The Thicke of Miley’s Debacle

Piggy backing off of the most prolific conversation of the week, we talk Miley one more time. Just once. We promise.


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MTV’s Video Music Awards aired on Sunday and today is Thursday, which means you’ve had three full days to talk about Miley Cyrus. If we know each other at all, I’d bet you haven’t just been talking about her. You’ve been obsessing. You’ve discussed her tongue and her hair and how foam fingers will never look quite the same to you again. Come Monday morning, some of you probably proclaimed that you didn’t want to talk about her at all. But some of you declared as much only to be summarily roped into a conversation about the wayward starlet anyway.

Those of you who’ve chimed in have dissected her with your friends, your co-workers, and the parents who want so badly to understand! On a personal note, I am now actively soliciting synonyms for the word, “twerk.”

Oh, sorry? What’s that? You say you’ve hit your head and are currently suffering temporary amnesia? Get it together! we’re going recap. Again.

As you may have gathered from even the most minimal interaction with the outside world this week, Miley Cyrus performed at this year’s VMAs. Wearing what began as a metallic, embellished leotard, but eventually morphed into a latex bikini, Cyrus began her two-song set with “We Can’t Stop”—the first single off of her forthcoming Bangerz album. She then joined Robin Thicke on stage for a rendition of “Blurred Lines.” In the course of these six and a half mesmerizing minutes, the industry’s resident enfant terrible mimed a variety of sex acts, grinded (ground?) on oversize stuffed bears, and generally tried very, very hard. Remember when Christina Aguilera’s “Genie in a Bottle” was considered unseemly? Those were the days.

Since prancing about in little more than a high-waisted thong, Cyrus has been a subject of near-universal scrutiny. Accordingly, we’ve called her slutty, shameless, fame-hungry, lost, motherless, raunchy, everything that’s wrong with America, everything that’s right with it, a kid, a whore, manipulative, talentless, brilliant, and likely mentally unhinged. But while the ass-slapping provocateur has captured our breathless attention, a certain striped-suit-wearing singer has largely escaped the controversy. Because, let’s be honest, how many of us have spent even a fraction of the past 72 hours analyzing Robin Thicke?

On Monday, my perfectly self-actualized older brother and I exchanged a flurry of emails to—what else?—chat about the previous evening’s awards. I found the performance profoundly unsexy. He termed it “horrible.” But after some back-and-forth, he directed me toward a short posting by Dr. Jill McDevitt—a sexologist who penned this:

Dear Society,

If you think a woman in a tan vinyl bra and underwear, grabbing her crotch and grinding up on a dance partner is raunchy, trashy, and offensive but you don’t think her dance partner is raunchy, trashy, or offensive as he sings a song about “blurred” lines of consent and propagating rape culture, then you may want to reevaluate your acceptance of double standards and your belief in stereotypes about how men vs. women “should” and are “allowed” to behave.


Dr. Jill

Frankly, Dr. Jill puts it better than I ever could.

Why do we condemn Cyrus, but exonerate Thicke? Does “Blurred Lines” propagate rape culture, as McDevitt and others have argued? If so, does that fact stop you from enjoying the supposed “song of summer” all the same? Is there a difference between Thicke’s brand of “impropriety” and Cyrus’s? And if there is, is one “better” than the other?

You’ve done it before, but why not do it again? Let’s talk about it.

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  • shelley

    No, I don’t think Thicke’s song propagates rape culture or is about anything unseemly. If you listen to his defense of the song I think it’s pretty dead-on and people misinterpreted it.

    I also don’t think Miley’s performance was bad because of any of the “slutty” things about it. It was just a horrid performance in which she appeared completely deranged. It did not showcase her talent and yes, I do think it was an offensive case of cultural appropriation like many have said. It also reminded me of a middle-school boy…the way they joke around and mock sexual acts with each other to be funny. It was truly odd!

    I think everyone is focusing on the wrong aspects of both of these artists!

    • Totally agree with your point regarding Miley’s performance. There was a serious lack of true showmanship, she “danced” around like someone on drugs, she was uncoordinated and her “vocals” were lacking. That was the first thing I noticed; THEN I checked out her outfit.

      As for Blurred Lines, have you read what Thicke’s dad had to say? Very similar to your point above

      • Laura

        That’s actually the problem! That Miley might be somebody on drugs indeed! Have you even listened to her song? She says she is dancing with “Molly” (ecstasy) in one part and in another she says “trying to get a line in the bathroom” (for cocaine). The point here isn’t how music industry makes women look like objects nowadays, which has always been like that, but how an artist can downgrade because of her use of drugs.

        • I listened to the song only once and changed the radio station as soon as I heard that “Molly” line..because the fact that the line is not even bleeped out on the radio makes me sick. And I know young kid are walking around singing her lyrics and idolizing her. I believe Miley is a horrible influence, and on top of that a poor performer, I just didn’t get into it in my above comment because trust me I can go on for days…why is she allowed/asked to perform on award shows in light of this? How does a song like that make it to the billboard charts?

          This is why I listen to disco…

          • bluetica

            “So la da di da di, we like to party
            Dancing with Miley”

            Not molly, but there definitely is a coke reference.

          • Lena

            of she means molly, even though she diplomatically says its miley

          • bluetica

            I don’t think there is any reason you should presume that is what she meant. In my opinion her performance was vulgar and distasteful, but she got everyone talking about her and that was exactly what she wanted. She wanted to shock people like the Madonna Britney Kiss, and she absolutely did that. So go Miley.

          • Lena

            when asked about the Molly/Miley she said in a German backstage TV interview that the lyrics are “weeell, for you to interprete”.

          • jseees

            She said that it is Molly for people who understand it, and its Miley for people who don’t. The original lyrics are most definitely Molly.

    • Mimi

      I Agee.

    • Jackie

      I thought Miley’s use of black women as props was pretty racist.

      • ola

        Pls that doesnt have any basis. I am black(not that it justifies anything but) i see no racist act in that

  • Kathy Jacobsma

    I can’t stand “Blurred Lines” or Robin Thicke. The song is catchy, sure, but the underlying message is still sexist and misogynistic. Coupled with that terrible music video where all the girls are naked and giant balloons have to spell out on the screen that “Robin Thicke has a big dick” just disgusts me. This is who our kids are listening to?

    Don’t even get me started on Miley.

    • DEEDEE

      But the video is directed by a female arguing that it’s not sexist. Read my blog

      • ziggyplayguitar hero

        there are male and female machism. It doesnt make any difference. That is like saying “oh it’s ok to have women completely naked, Robin’s wife gave him permission!”
        We need more feminist men, and less sexist women.

        • Maria

          Why isn’t it okay for women to be naked? I’m a woman, and I don’t feel like it was an attack, more like, the women in the video do what they want and the song makes reference to their right to choose. I think that it’s the less sexual music video i’ve seen, but people just went nuts because of the boob content.

  • Definitely, the song is a crude and disgusting one. And personally, I didn’t excuse Robin from the whole debacle. Since Miley and him performed together in a trashy and cheap manner, they should be criticized together.

    • IslaRose

      I’m not sure where I read it, but Robin didn’t rehearse that act with Miley. He was allegedly under the presumption the three acts would be separate (much like 2 chainz third piece of the act that followed.) I certainly don’t believe that he signed up to be upstaged and humiliated.

      • I can totally get what you’re saying – If he knew what he was in for, he probably wouldn’t sign up for the act in the first place. However, it being such a large scale performance on a global stage (I’m in India & I watched it!), both of them should have been clear about the exact details of the performance if they weren’t already.

      • hhlove

        He may not have known everything, but at the end of the show after everyone was talking about Miley he said that he didn’t see a problem with it and thought it was good. So he still found it ok.

        • Well, since that is his personal decision, at least he’s the one human being on the planet to be ok with it.

  • Maria B

    Gotta bring up the fact that Thicke is a married almost-40-something as well. That’s definitely relevant and definitely very, very gross.

    What’s most interesting to me is that our very open-minded and obsessively “non-judgmental” society is so willing to make quick moral judgments about LOTS of things. Miley. Rape culture. Etc. But then we’re not supposed to make moral judgments about other things? That’s another double standard that’s very interesting here. I wrote about that in my blog if you’re interested (plug plug plug)

  • shelley

    Also, I found Thicke’s video for blurred lines to be so flirty and sexy and kind of European to me. I just thought it was kind of awesome and it didn’t offend me in the least. As soon as I saw it, I forwarded it to my fiance.

    • Paola

      What do you mean with “kind of European”? I’m european and I find that video disgusting, sexist, misogynistic.

      • ziggyplayguitar hero

        oh man, the idea that america has on europe…

        • shelley

          Well I should correct myself, I shouldn’t have said that and I certainly wouldn’t want to offend anyone.

          I guess what I really meant is that while I stayed in Europe, there was a nonchalance about nudity that I appreciated, a natural maturity toward it that I haven’t personally found in the midwest. I’m not trying to say all of Europe would love this video or anything crazy. Sorry! 🙂

          • Maria

            I’m okay with what you said. I’m from Europe, and I don’t think that showing the naked body of a woman is disgusting or offensive. Frankly, I think the video expresses our right to be woman, sexy, and choose what to do with our bodies.

    • Kel

      He’s disgusting and nasty. Not to mention he’s 40, married and has kids. If my dad acted like this I would be mortified and just plain grossed out. And as for this being European is ridiculous. Yes I agree that there is a sort of nonchalance about nudity in some parts of Europe but in a tasteful way. Blurred lines was just plain trash and robin thicke just needs to stop!

    • Amanda

      I’m sorry but I’m European and even Swedish, (for you out there who think all swedish girls are blond and slutty) and there is nothing European about that video. We don’t act like that or would ever think that that video was okey. I find that video very sexist and misogynistic. I think Europeans have the same view on nudity as I think americans have.

  • andreea

    how can a 20 yo girl know it’s probably not the best idea to attract attention w/ your butt and by simulating sex onstage w/ a much older man etc when her performance got 306,000 tweets per minute… she can’t.
    her society is applauding her and paying her shitloads of money to do this and more. i watch the american entertainment business and wonder how nobody is foreseeing the overdose in a couple of … years? oh, i know. they see it coming, but nobody cares…
    it’s not like she has a binding contract telling her to use her sexuality as soon as possible. remember britney, cristina, rihanna? how they all turned sex bombs after being cutie pies until their 18th birthday. was it their choice or was it marketing?
    but let’s all relax. after all, it’s not like the kid was sold into legal sex slavery…

    • islarose

      It’s been coming for years. Much like the women clutching their pearls during the Madonna “Like a Virgin” performance, or Britney’s big coming out (which I think Miley was following, either consciously or not, the child star wanting to be seen as an “adult” woman) .. it’s all just getting continuously worse.

  • I read Miley’s flailing, crazy awkward limbs as a pretty accurate depiction of the teeth-bashing, cringe-inducing hella awkward first attempts at sex most of us experience, and seeing as she’s claiming her sexuality, that’s almost fitting. (It was probably not her intention to be so introspective but hey, half the message is in the receiver.) Thicke wasn’t innocently standing there when she came over and nuzzled him. They choreographed that, most likely. There was planning involved. If he was so scandalized and innocent in this, he should have sent her off the stage like one Mr. Timberlake did to his old buddies.

    The thing that really floored me in this whole debate was that Thicke’s mother, Gloria Loring was quoted as saying: “I didn’t expect her to put her butt that close to my son,” when, um, do we need Robin to explain the subject matter of the song he performed to you, moms?

  • Stephanie Janyk

    I agree with Dr. Jill in that, yes, Thicke has some how by passed any scrutiny despite the fact that he has a responsibility to the public as well, that he also should understand what standing behind a bent over, half naked, young girl looks like to his audience. Although I’d like to bring up a much more important matter! Which is the matter of racism. I believe this performance further perpetuates women of colour as sexual objects and their culture as means for a white girl to sexual express herself. Miley Cyrus is probably one of the least connected people to african american culture and yet she is using and abusing aspects of this culture she actually knows nothing about. Her dancers on stage are all black women and are basically used as props, slapping their asses while they wear bear costumes which cover their faces. Great! so nothing has changed in our society, black women are portrayed as merely sexual objects while little Miley gets to run around half clothed appropriating from their culture but never having to deal with the subject position of a black female in our contemporary society. If this info is something new then read a feminist article called “The Myth of the Black Rapist” or this

    • alex

      okay but how is this mileys fault? did we miss the two chains, kendrick lamar and robin thicke video for “Give it to you?”

      • Chish

        It is Miley’s fault as she is essentially making the use of black women as props more mainstream. She clearly knows her influence over her audience and she should be using that influence to discourage not encourage it

    • thank you for this message. I’ve showed it to my friends who said that I was overreacting again, that it wasn’t such of a big deal that white Cyrus lady danced like that while using dark skinned woman as props.

  • Jessica

    The song absolutely propagates rape culture and misogyny, but commercializes it in a way with a catchy beat and celebrities to make it seem more acceptable. The bottom line is both parties participated in a tasteless, crude performance that is disrespectful to their significant others. Fans aside, Robin Thicke is a role model to his children, and he and Miley Cyrus both owe their significant others a level of respect that doesn’t involve that type of explicit behavior.

  • Bethanie Marshall

    i beg of Miley’s team, please, tell us why you put her in that unflattering “bikini” and let her chicken butt shake out the back of it like Slime Time Live?

  • houseofboys

    I was amazed/shocked/bamboozled by the onslaught of attacks on Miley Cyrus after the VMAs. It was as if she performed alone and Robin Thicke was targeted or victimized by her performance. There were plenty of people writing “letters to Miley from a mom” or “why i won’t critize Miley” or “20 things I hope Miley learned last night at the VMAs”. One thing people didn’t seem concerned with is that Robin Thicke took no blame, was not shamed, was not asked to explain himself and was left out of the conversation in general.

    I did not find the performance or the costumes to be offensive or even all that shocking for an MTV audience. I did find the outlash to be over the top. The only thing I could find the day after discussing Robin Thicke’s role in the performance was an article about how his wife wasn’t upset with Miley. Honestly? As if he didn’t rehearse this skit or know what was coming.

    It felt like prudish America came out in full force after that performance. Why was the reaction so harsh? Is it because we love Disney? Or because we love our girls to be pure and sweet but maybe just a little bit nasty, sometimes naked-as long as we like the body-, but not *too* sexual?

    Weren’t we (the ManRepeller audience) just discussing how no one cares about boobs any more? Well, apparently a lot of someones care about vinyl undies and a girl grabbing her crotch, which was Michael Jackson’s signature move for years.

    • houseofboys

      hey there… i meant “criticize”…

    • Maria

      I think that Miley Cyrus’ performance was horrible, not because of her crotch grabbing, but because it was quite distasteful and the singing and dancing were not something I would have ever liked.
      On the other hand, Thicke has been left out of the controversy too much, and it’s not something I would’ve agreed to if I would’ve been him, but I think the worst part of the performance was not because of him (again, not the sexual part, but the lack of impressive dance moves and singing that Miley has.)

  • Poe

    Thicke and Miley are both entertainers — are we not entertained?
    The performance wasn’t exactly my taste, nor would I do the things that they did on stage, however — why so judgey? They put on a show, that got us talking — it’s show biz. I say they did their job very well!

    • Amanda

      People can get famous and be talked about without being trashy and disgusting. Miley and Robin should both be ashamed and have more respect for women in general and for their significant others. And NO I was NOT entertained.

  • Leticia

    Thicke stole Beetlejuice’s look and Miley’s ass looked like a raw chicken in that outfit. I haven’t been this excited to talk about a VMA performance since Kanye interrupted Taylor Swift’s speech.

  • Beej

    I don’t think we’ve entirely overlooked Robin Thicke, I’ve seen plenty of people call him out on Facebook (perhaps those are just my circle of friends). Personally, my first thought was something along the lines of “where in the world is his wife and why has MTV not gotten her on camera yet”) I would love to have her take on his song and this performance.

  • Natasha Jarmick

    This hits the spot exactly.

    I was having a conversation about this whole thing to a male coworker, and I mentioned that Robin Thicke deserves some of the “blame” – and my coworker just said “it’s not his fault, he didn’t know she was going to do that!”

    That’s rape culture I guess…didn’t even realize it. Blame the woman, the slut, not the man, it can’t ever be his fault, can it.

    • Emma K

      OMG, your co-worker!!! Robin Thicke knew exactly what was going to happen. They rehearse the VMA awards days in advance. How do you think they co-ordinated the duet? He doesn’t have a problem with nude models rubbing up on him for 14 hours shooting a music video, so I am sure he doesn’t care about a attractive pop star of similar age doing it for 2 minutes. I didn’t have a problem with Miley’s costumes (good on her for getting on stage in a nude latex bikini to simulate the Blurred Lines video. That must take a lot of confidence!!) My only issue was with the tongue waggling and the foam finger… it just looked plain bizarre and turned what should have been for me a cheeky and raunchy performance very much in the spirit of 20 year old Miley into a ”WTF?” moment. Lost potential I say.

  • Johanna Moroch

    A very coarse performance, though I have to defend Miley’s right to offend.

  • My problem with the performance had nothing to do with the obviously-for-the-sake-of-shock-value “sexiness” of it all, but everything to do with the fact that it seemed so totally culturally appropriative and also down-right RACIST. Miley literally used a group of black women as stage props, just as she does in the “We Won’t Stop” video, and then to go so far as simulating a rim job and slapping the ass of one of those women is so incredibly objectifying that I can’t even. Feminism isn’t feminism if we only support the right for white women to be sexually liberated (whatever, i don’t know any adult woman who doesn’t have some form of sex life, so miley being “sexy” really isn’t new or interesting to me) – but don’t take a good, hard, and critical look at how those performances deal with issues of race.

    • Crystal

      As an African american young woman I wasn’t offended but I was highly annoyed at the ensemble of black dancers or “props” as you have correctly pointed out. I didn’t want to be “that” person to pull the race card but it’s almost as if she makes a mockery of the whole hip hop culture. Sure you have some ratchet rap performers out there still making songs about a$$ clapping and Range Rovers but then you have artists like Drake, Kendrick Lamar, and J. Cole who are taking hip hop to a new intellectual level for the young generation. Her performance and all around new look or whatever is a blatant parody of what she thinks hip hop is…I can’t believe aren’t bothered by her obvious exploitation of the culture. Quite frankly it’s extremely embarrassing and I can’t understand for the life of me why people are embracing this obvious attempt of Miley trying to be “down.” Ugh.

  • Lee

    Perfectly said. If you not seen the documentary Missrepresentation (streaming on Netflix) you should. It poses similar questions about why females are judged more harshly than men and gives some insight to the damage we are doing to our young women in this country.
    Admittedly, when I first hear the song I liked it enough to consider buying the album but once I heard it a few more times and saw the video – where only woman were objectified – I decided against it. The music itself might be good but the message is overtly dangerous and sexist. Why condone anything that takes a woman’s power away?
    If woman don’t start supporting other woman and drawing a line in the sand this culture will continue on the male dominated media path forever.

  • I don’t know Thicke or his lyrics and haven’t watched the show but I still get my share of miley’s twerking, obviously (internet). BORING.

    Can someone please tell the Industry we’ve seen so many lady singers moving their body in a way that a seven-weeks fetus can now recognize as “denotes female sexuality and her love of it” that we may have … lost the power to really see it as intended? That most of us have a button “sex sells” in our heads that flares up and then a siren screams any time anyone starts gyrating her hips in a way that should be provocative but is only the industry cliche labelled as provocative? The same thing as reading Barbara Cartland and believing she wrote about real love?

    If that’s anything to do with sexuality than I am a Mermaid. And if Miley got her bangers (whatever that is, I decided to understand it as sex acts) like she should, she wouldn’t be imitating a person getting her proper bangers, not in such a bad way. “Look at me: I’ve learnt the proper routine and added to it and now you are supposed to talk about this new sexual me, me, me!”.

    I am so fed up with all those singing ladies doing their workout routine on TV. Can’t they just, you know: sing?

    And someone should have a few conversations with Miley on How not to make objects out of people and alienate masses … Bleh.

    (sorry Thicke isn’t getting his share, he looked simply dumb to me on some pictures and I don’t care that he knew what was going to happen. He’s not her daddy.)

  • Hayley Mitchell-Gardner

    I totally agree with what you have to say. But on one hand, he dosent have millions of younger girls who have constantly looked up to her since they were about 6. As well as dancing basically naked. She is teaching that way of acting to millions of younger females out there. He is also very very in the wrong because he is also going along with it and is 35! He would not be happy if a man that age danced with his daughter. I dont think its right that ether of them are in relationships, i have a fiance and noway would i be happy if he was dancing that way with another individual. Regardless or not if it was to do with their jobs, thats basically the same as saying “oh i was drunk, i didnt mean too”. I think they are both in the wrong but even more so Miley, not because she is the girl but because of who mainly her fan base are and the way she was dressed. She didnt have to wear what she wore or strip anymore down that what she was already wearing. If she is told to wear things like that she can say No.

  • ziggyplayguitar hero

    Completely agree. Miley might be distasteful, bot Robin is either a sexist pig or a very naive man who is geniuinly unaware of the advantage that being a man represents for him (yeah right). I think the hole defense of the song and the unrated version of the video “women have been naked since forever, dude! Im celebrating the woman’s body, not stereotyping it” and so on is even worse than saying “women have been standing naked in hip hop videos next to luxury cars since for ever, men, im just celebrating this”.
    You dont fool anyone, Robin. And the whole “my wife gave me permission!” is really lame too. Plus, he have a hidious taste in fashion.

    • JSpanyurd

      The thing is, Robin hasn’t always been like this. As someone who stands up for women’s rights (and human rights in general) AND a pretty big fan of Robin Thicke, I don’t think he’s entirely in the wrong. A lot of people just found out about him through “Blurred Lines”, and feel like he’s Super-Misogynist, but he’s not. If you look at his earlier work (“Lost Without You”, “In the Mornin”, “Love after War”, “Wanna Love You Girl” “Sex Therapy”) he’s a respectable and talented R&B artist who probably didn’t Expect Miley and her tongue to grind on him like she did. He probably was just grinding on her back, not to propagate rape culture or to “degrade women”, but it was the heat of the moment. He’s not a bad guy. He never was. I don’t he deserves no blame, because he does, but he’s not a bad guy when it comes to women. This whole VMA performance may have painted him in the wrong light, but he’s not that bad

  • Ashton

    I think the reason why conversations about this performance were directed primarily at Myley is because she was presented in a, seemingly intentional, significantly shocking way. Her dance moves, facial expressions, clothes, etc. The performance wasn’t about the songs and the lyrics as much as it was about the physicality of the show (intended to shock/out do the kiss between Brittany and Madonna).

  • liz

    If we’re being honest here, I think that Miley was some kind of fucked up. Her tongue was white, which leads me to believe that she was suffering from severe cotton mouth – a side effect of many different drugs. Don’t hate the player, hate the…….. bath salts?

    They’re entertainers, lay off. We are doing exactly what they want us to, obsessing over them. Whether we are showering them with compliments or insulting that God awful performance, they don’t care.

  • schlif

    Everyone is taking this so seriously. Personally I am sick of PR prepped, professionaly styled “artists”. I mean, the girl had to be the perfect little specimen of Disney purity and practice extreme control for practically her whole youth. I mean, a preteen experience without bad hair and obnoxoous behavior is almost not worth having. She is clearly just exploring who she is and unfortunately very publically. But what the hell….in the 80’s I wanted to see Guns and Roses f#ck some sh$t up. It’s not reality, its a performance. PERFORMANCE. If you give young girls self confidence at home, they realize this. And who in Hollywood isn’t fame hungry and misguided anyways? I’m not saying the performance was good- I’m just saying it’s worth a chuckle or an eyeroll & not scutiny.

  • but robin thicke et al did get criticism (okay, definitely no where near as much as cyrus) when blurred lines was released, if you listen carefully while watching robin thicke’s video, you can hear a thousand of feminists scream. I’m not denying that there is definitely a double standard thing going on but I think the reason why there is so much controversy surrounding the whole thing (and I may well be stating the obvious here) but it is because of the super-clean disney star miley was and a complete contrast to who everybody saw on stage at VMAs. Maybe if it was Gaga grinding her self on Thicke’s crotch, there wouldn’t have been as much as an uproar. Also, I did think that it was shit that people were really making such a big deal on the part she played and not even mentioning the role that thicke had but was it me or did he to some extent look a little uncomfortable on stage and I have to question, was it even rehearsed or was it just her idea to start feeling him up with a foam hand. I had no problem with Miley’s performance, I just had a problem with her singing. She was literally just screaming out the words to “blurred lines”.

  • Aubrey Green

    1. Miley’s performance was terrible, whether or not it is marketing, or she is just kind of slutty, we may never know. Even if she is slutty, that’s her choice. Should it have been on TV for the world (young children) to see, no, but Miley has been ‘acting’ this way for a while now, so it shouldn’t really come as a surprise to the parents who may have let their children watch the show in the first place (if that is the concern of a lot of people), or a surprise to us all really.

    2. Her song and Robin’s song both say/imply the same thing…which is that everyone can and will do whatever they want – why would that stop them from performing that way on TV.

    3. As far as Robin Thicke’s song, I think he/they are saying, women also just want to have sex, which I do think is true- women can’t, or don’t just typically say that, or even blatantly act that way, even if they do want to, hence the “blurred line” or, “mixed message”. I personally don’t think his song is meant how most people are taking it. It’s a fine line.

    4. Robin’s wife, Paula Patton, gave the okay for the music video, she was at the VMA’s with Robin and I am sure she also gave the performance of the VMA’s her okay as well. She was recently topless for her role in “2 Guns”, so she probably isn’t as offended as others are. Maybe that makes her crazy for allowing it and I am not saying that makes it all okay in general, but for those wondering, that’s the story.

    5. What about Miley’s fiance, I am curious how he feels about all of this, or I am mistaken and they are no longer together? Not that it would matter, or make a difference either way, but just curious. We definitely don’t need to be a fly on the wall in that bedroom.
    6. Miley has a cute figure, but her ass did not look good in that outfit.

    Don’t Rap artists sing/talk/imply/gesture/etc in their songs and videos exactly what Miley and Robin are singing/gesturing/implying in their performance and song – not saying that makes it okay, or that it wasn’t still terrible, but putting this much blame on Miley and Robin, when other artists have been doing the same thing for ages…

    • Hanne

      but what does his wife have to do with it, does it make it better that she agrees with the performance, does it even matter?

      • Aubrey Green

        you clearly didn’t read my whole response, or the rest of the comments for that matter. There were a few people asking about his wife and I specifically said: “I’m not saying it makes it all okay in general, but for those wondering, that’s the story.” So, to answer your question/comment, I don’t personally think it makes it okay, or that it does make a difference.

        • Hanne

          in a way it just shows that it was really simply a performance, so that she says its fine with her for him to promote his music however is effective

  • Azalia Martinez

    Why don’t we stop the judgement and stop and think for a second… or should I say Thicke. I’ll stick to think for now. For those who expose your social night life at bars and discotheques, Miley’s twerking should be no surprise. Anyone who has a pair of legs, a butt and has some kind of dancing ability will drop, shake and “[rub] it like it’s hot.” Miley is what? 20 or 21 years old, IDK I’ve been so confused since the las Hannah Montana episode. As a young adult, Miley is acting as a rational rebellious fool. It is obvious she is seeking attention rather than pushing society away. The irony of this situation is that people are desperate exterminate her “twerking” off the TV screen, but are “werking” hard on keeping her on the stream. With 164,809,599 views (yes, I copied and pasted; I was not about to type in all of those digits) Can’t Stop has lived up to it’s name. People indeed “Can’t Stop” watching the dancing teddy bears and admiring her orgasmic movies in ‘White OUT’ attire. Now lets talk of about! Mr. Thicke here pulled up & Ms. Montana over here ‘backed it up.’ It’s part of the show, it’s a double standard, it’s annoying to peoples eyes, IT IS THE MEDIA. Try keeping your eyes off and get going with your life, try forgetting that Miley underwent a serious metamorphosis from Hannah to Tongue-Hanging-out Miley (don’t worry her tongue will eventually cramp up and die out) because she might not be pleasing you (100%) but you are encouraging her to do more one view, one comment, one tweet at a time.

    • That just adds to the problem … see, part of my social life is going to the co-called “erotic events” with my hubby (we just like it). You do get too see … stuff there and you do get the feeling who’s really feeling (like being) overtly erotic and who’s young and needs money.

      There’s nothing erotic about Miley’s twerking. Either she’s too small, looking too childish or too young or too fond of hiding behind colored people serving as her props.

      There’s NOTHING erotic about a rich 20-year-old deciding she’s going to show it to us. Nothing.

      Madonna and Cristina A. can do erotic. But not Miley. She just appears desperate, repeating the same gestures again and again. Call me European, but erotic is also about the … innuendo. Double talk and messages between the lines. Sex.

      • Sorry: too see => to see (it’s almost midnight here)

      • Azalia Martinez

        Very True. She does not have an inch of any kind of inch.
        Sex for attention. ADDStD Attention Deficit Doing Sexual Thing Disorder

  • Elle Bee

    So true!

  • Holly

    Leave Miley alone!

  • S

    I liked what this guy said in response to all the backlash against Miley and not Thicke:

  • Rebecca

    No it wasn’t sexy but hasn’t Miley achieved what she has set out to do with her image? Additionally, in ‘We Can’t Stop’ she specifically sings ‘forget the haters.’ To be honest, as viewers aren’t music shows supposed to have a little bit of crazy in them? C’mon, the Brit Awards in the UK were DIRE this year. With a bunch of big personalities and musicians crowded together in the same venue, isn’t it supposed to get a little bit mad?

  • deepwideocean

    I read somewhere the other day “let’s stop slut-shaming Miley and focus, instead, on how she used black girls as props”. That nicely summarized the most disturbing element of the performance for me. Oh and the fact that Robin Thicke performed raunchy moves with a girl he could have fathered (however we can’t discount Miley’s free will either).
    Robin Thicke. I hate his music. Firstly because the lyrics suck. Not just because they are offensive but because they are just crap.
    Maybe his music didn’t intend to propagate rape culture however there are many causes for concern in his song. He says he knows the “good girl” wants him but won’t show it. I feel this is trying to reign in female sexuality, for me it says “only bad girls have sex”. I also hate the “the way you grab me…must wanna get nasty” line. Being sexy doesn’t means she wants sex, making out doesn’t mean she wants sex, grinding doesn’t mean she wants sex either. Frequently the “she led me on” line has been to used to justify rape.
    Furthermore, rapists frequently tell their victims “I know you want it”. I’m sure Robin Thicke didn’t intend to sound like a rapist but for a rape victim, imagine having to hear this taunt EVERYWHERE YOU GO.
    Finally and this is what I have the biggest problem with: Robin Thicke is always completely dressed, but the women wear almost nothing. It may be true that these women feel liberated and sexy. But the viewer gets the distinct feeling that they are only there to parade for him. It’s all about his pleasure and not theirs. Their bodies exist only for his pleasure.

    • hannah

      Exactly!!! Thicke always has some immaculate suit on while the women around him are next to naked? Miley can do what she wants and as much as I personally thought it was a bit out of control, I think slut-shaming (or as Lena Dunham tweeted, “just being fucking rude”) her sends the wrong message – she is a young woman exploring her sexuality and expressing herself, albeit on an international platform, so it’s obviously going to be blown out of proportion and highly criticised. The performance was painful to watch, but not as painful as the unrated version of blurred lines, which made me physically ill – I don’t care if his wife thinks it’s okay, if anything that makes her look like a fool, and to anyone that thinks the song is being “misinterpreted”, try being a young woman in a club just dancing with her girlfriends, having this song come on and having every male in sight think it’s appropriate to find someone to uninvitedly grind and whisper “i know you want it” into their ear (then followed by a remark about my being too tall, then his friend saying “it’s okay, height doesn’t matter when you’re on your knees” and then being shocked when I walked away, telling me to “calm down, love”). I don’t know, it just makes me so disappointed that it’s 2013 and people are still sucked into believing that songs like that are okay, and don’t have misogynistic undertones. It’s just gross. He’s gross. He’s encouraging young men to treat women like objects. Gross.
      Also, if you have to tell the world you have a big dick via huge balloons in an objectifying video, you probably don’t have a big dick, you just look like one.

  • Rebecca

    About the drug references…well isn’t she being honest? Yes, I am looking at you Paris and Nicole oioi.

    Always can count on this blog for an insightful and interesting read 🙂

  • Medium rare

    If she just kept her tongue in her mouth I would have liked the performance and every child music star has to grow up eventually. Women should take empowerment in getting away with more and having influence by being sexy and confidient. When the sexiness isn’t there (scary tongue face) you alienate your fan base. It’s a much different position to shock and inspire admiration, it’s quite another to shock and engender confusion and embarrassment. Janet Jackson/jtt nip slip? Not so much. Madonna brittney? Different story. But you can count on everyone waiting to see what happens next year on the vmas.

  • Maybe because Miley wants to change her brand. Okay, okay, we’ve heard that she’s no longer Hannah…the girl she owes everything to.
    As always, her best friend Leslie says, “Oh she’s just bein’ Miley.”

    Your Friend, Jess

  • Kim P.

    Awesome angle taken in this piece. I do agree that Miley took a brunt of the critique from that performance, but feminists were trashing that song since day 1, especially when the video came out. i agree his misogynistic lyrics should be called out every single time it’s sung, but Miley seriously stole the entire performance. i don’t think in that moment, anyone could focus on anything other than her acting a fool. Now, in the follow-up articles, there should be an addressing of the problematic blurred lines lyrics, but ultimately Miley was the focus, and i don’t necessarily think it’s because Thicke was overlooked, but rather, outshined.

    • Di

      that Thicke guy is repulsive and Miley looked alright but she cannot dance for shit. The whole thing was woeful. I couldnt really hear the lyrics so I dont care what they said but the the lack of talent was pretty offensive.
      bring back Madonna

  • Hannah

    You know what the problem is here. Anyone could dance around, and frankly sing like Miley did. Sticking out my tongue? No problem. Got it. The disturbing issue is the cultural appropriation that occurred during the performance and barely anyone has brought attention to it. Black women used as props?!? They’re faces weren’t even visible! And for some the ass-slapping was cute. Not for me. I took it as degrading and inappropriate. It was all there. How can the mainstream not see these obvious issues? Mattie, you didn’t even mention it in your write up. Most critiques I have heard have been about how “slutty” it was or how she was simply revealing her sexuality to the world. Yes she is but why must she associate black women with her big reveal? It was degrading and appalling. She has the whole world at her feet and she uses it to spread this message? Perpetuating stereotypes? Also, can we please acknowledge how her white privilege has allowed her to dabble and play “ghetto”. And why, to re-market and become more wealthy. Absolutely absurd. My boycott commenced the moment I finished watching. Never. Again.

  • NinjaCate

    I don’t think anyone’s exonerated Thicke, it’s just that Miley has dominated the conversation; exactly the way she intended. When Blurred Lines debuted, he was under a lot of scrutiny (and handled it abysmally) but I think with the VMA performance, we’d already HAD the conversation about Thicke. We needed to have the conversation about Miley.

  • Yu Yu Chan

    It was not the way she dressed but the way she performed (if we called someone moving around looking like she’s high or drunk a performance, especially at an event like that)!

  • Saw Dr. Jill’s insightful comment via facebook yesterday, comPLETEly appreciated it. While, in the case of Sunday’s VMAs, I hold Miley and Thicke equally responsible for propagating sexual promiscuity and the objectification of women and all that jazz with their respective performances, I’m still tempted to dole out a harsher judgement to the dude. Men created “rape culture,” if such a thing exists. Women like Miley adhere to it because they’ve learnt from men that that’s how they get attention. What if Miley’s the universal victim here, and not our retinas? Or am I being a reverse sexist?

  • I didn’t feel the need to discuss Robin Thicke because he’s already established that he’s just a dirtbag. This was new for Miley, nothing new for him.

  • Petra

    I don’t judge Ms Cyrus for a second. Growing up in the public eye must be a horrid, horrid experience. There was an article on Man Repeller recently where you concluded that she was “coming of age”, I was dumbfounded by that idea. A twenty year old girl singing about doing cocaine in the bathroom and twerking (which to me looks as if someone designed the move to degrade women, if that is dancing, then I don’t know what isn’t) in front of the whole world isn’t exploring her sexuality or coming of age. She is simply doing what her bosses, way more rich and powerful than she’ll ever be, are telling her. I think it must be terrible to be swallowed by a machinery as vicious as contemporary music industry, and to be swallowed at such a young age – even worse.
    As far as Mr Thicke is concerned, his song, video and explanations can throw a competition over which one is more disgusting and demeaning. I don’t worry about him, though. I worry about all the women who hum these lyrics and approve of songs like these because it’s “entertainment”. I don’t see anything fun in it.
    All of this has nothing to do with any form of healthy sexuality. It’s simply product placement.
    I do also think it is absurd, though not unexpected, that people would throw such a fit over this act. Sexist videos are on MTV every day, I mean, when they find time to show them in the midst of Teen Mom or Jersey Shore. MTV is an altar of shallowness. Why should the VMAs be any different?
    It’s a fucked up world we live in, yes.

  • Maxim

    Could it be possible that Miley only wanted to prove some point by overacting ? I wonder if it’s not something more to this story .. Like irony, dark humour or maybe a hint of self-parody ? It’s not that shocking compared to what Madonna have done (and God bless us, still does) or what Rihanna is now doing. I think we should give the girl some credit and maybe consider the fact that there had been some actual thinking behind this performance and not only the rage for quick fame ! From that angle, I actually had a good laugh and enjoyed it, thinking she was pulling of some dark joke on Robin’s catching yet disturbing song (yup, it does feel weird when your cousin (age 11) goes around singing it all day !)


  • Bridgitte

    I definitely am NOT for letting Robin Thicke off the hook here. After all, did anyone read that interview in which he was asked about whether or not he thinks his song was sexist and he responded “I always respect women, so it was kind of fun to pretend to disrespect them” (if you don’t believe me, google it). So ya, Robin Thicke you’re disgusting.

    As for Miley, as a women I am sticking by my opinion that it was gross, but not for the reason that it was “sexual”. The provocative part of it is not my issue with the performance as I don’t see the big deal (quite frankly there’s been performances of the same stature before and there’s nothing wrong with her displaying her sexuality). What makes me look down on the performance was simply her execution. I.e. she just can’t dance and her voice sounded atrocious.
    If Rihanna or Beyonce were to have performed the same routine (foam finger and all), I definitely would have enjoyed the performance more simply because I know they would have performed it and made it aesthetically pleasing and fierce. Instead, Miley looked a bit like a flailing noodle.

    • Bridgitte

      Also, watching Miley perform knowing that she was trying so so hard to display herself as someone cool and not Hannah Montana, was the most uncomfortable part of the whole thing.

  • I think it is the hole scene that has bin put together around the entire performance. How the skinny Miley was shocking because she was grinding her tiny behind against Mr. Thicke, no one even bothered to look up at his complacent face. I mean tada, it was in your face the hole time during the show. Only some things do last longer on the memory I have to admitt. Probably because of the many tongue’ish moves she tried to compleeted.

  • Chish

    I think what we’re also missing out on discussing is the fact that not only was Miley’s performance deeply inappropriate and lacked taste but the fact that she has been continually objectifying black women (both in her music video and in this performance). She slapped their behinds, simulated rimming and grinded upon them and I personally (as a black woman) am more than a little offended by this as she was essentially just using these women as props! Adding to this, she seems to think that ‘twerking’ and ‘grills’ etc are all of black culture. I completely acknowledge the fact that these are a part of our culture, however a very small part and this is what she has chosen to appropriate. I respect her right to do so, but the way in which she is doing it seems somewhat fake.

    On the subject of Robin Thicke I certainly think that he is propagating rape culture however the catchiness of the song seems to make everyone ignore the sexist message that he’s putting out.

  • Sethsmam

    Poor Miley seems to be surrounded by yes men. Where was the person in her life to tell her, ‘you can’t really pull off that kinda dancing, you’re not in KISS and just looked like Licky Lizard and it just self indulgent crap’? Maybe we’re to harsh and she had some peanut butter on her chin.

  • Sydney

    I think a point that isn’t getting across very well isn’t so much that what Miley did was raunchy or slutty, because that’s what shows like this are for (anyone remember Madonna’s first performance?). Personally I was disappointed with the quality. If you’re going to ‘twerk,’ do it well. Even those of us who are fans of the ‘twerk’ movement can’t proudly stand behind this because it poorly done. It seems Miley has misconstrued being different and a little risque with being bat-shit crazy. And the vocals of this performance, if it can be considered one, were well below what she’s capable of. Mix that with a toothpick of a young woman in ill-fitting latex and well…..ew. But hey, who the hell knows what I would do if I were offered money to do whatever and wear whatever at the age of 20. If she’s happy with herself and people keep buying her music she’s alright with it.

  • Mattie Kahn

    Hi, all! Sorry I’ve been missing your super astute comments. (#movingday)

    A few points: I’m really interested in what a few people have mentioned regarding Thicke’s wife. Since we’ve sort of touched on the topic of “wifely responsibility” before, what do we think hers is? Is it it’s OWN kind of sexism to even bring her into the conversation? And given Miley’s problematic cultural appropriation, is it relevant that Paula Patton is black? I don’t think I think so, but I could see myself being persuaded by someone who argued otherwise…

    • Well, you know, there are people who say “but I am not [discriminating], my best friend(s wife etc.) is [a member of a minority]?” or something? And then using black people as props and officially appropriating their culture because it’s cooler? (“But I am not racist, Robin’s wife is black?” 🙂 (I didn’t know she was)).

      Actually, after having read some of the comments below, I decided it was all just an irony. Sarcasm. That way, all those gifs floating around the internets get a new meaning, suitable for some of us.

      (there’s a German word for feeling a burning shame because someone else is behaving stupidly, Schadenfreude. I hate it so I need a way out. And saying it was all an irony is a good way out. Thank you, Maxim :-))

      • Petra

        Right on! It’s basically saying “He’s not sexist, his wife is a woman.”. His wife has no relevance in this. It’s not about his personal life, but the message he sends out to the public.

        Btw, the word you’re looking for is fremdschämen. 🙂

        • Yeah, it really is, on both counts 🙂 I guess I shouldn’t get angry, it impairs the vocabulary. (Thx :-))

    • Hannah

      Mattie, may I ask why this would be at all relevant to Miley’s racial appropriation? Robin Thicke is a separate entity in my opinion. He seemingly had no say at all in Miley’s choice to use black women as props. Their collaboration is not the issue to me. It was the disrespectful behavior seen by millions, many who did not see an issue with it.

      I also think it is important to clarify. Paula Patton is of mixed heritage. Half black, half white, Just like me. I’m not sure if how she identifies and I still do not see how personal relationships are relevant to this argument.

      • Mattie Kahn

        That IS important to note. Thanks for telling me. I don’t think there is any direct correlation or particular relevance, but I do think that, for many people, Patton and Thicke represent a certain kind of 21st-century relationship. Their marriage demonstrates a “modernity” and liberalism that we rightly treasure in society, so Thicke’s backwards-ness in this situation is especially disheartening to me.

        • Hannah

          Okay, now I understand. Did not mean to come off as abrasive. I too, found the entire situation disheartening and above all frustrating. This IS the 21st century and to see such bigoted behavior on a national stage makes me want to move to Iceland and call it a day. Thanks Mattie. Been loving your column.

  • CarlotaLMorais

    Simply put,
    I agree, Miley was shameless and a whore.
    Thicke isn’t the one rubbing his ass on some other singer’s crotch although he was trashy as well.
    No one forced her to do any thing.
    I believe she is a big fat attention whore!
    That’s all!!

  • CarolinaG

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  • Brie

    Hmm, didn’t expect any more from mainstream music. It was never about the music. What a shame.

  • Celine

    I understand that she’s still trying to break out of the disney thing and find herself. Many people say they love her for that and that she doesn’t take herself too seriously. Miley’s also only 20, so isn’t the grinding thing also technically illegal? Her age means she (again, technically) can’t drink. About the drugs, yes there were references, but then again there was a whole song about weed and drinking with “Young and Wild and Free”, so while it should kind of be looked down on, it’s essentially just to spark contreversy, nothing new in today’s pop culture. About her outfit, the latex was revealing to say the least, her ass was partially out, and not in a particularly flattering (flattering?) way, but then again, Lady Gaga was in two shells and a thong, so… But enough about Miley. Thicke was enabling this and even if it was just for play, he was doing i t too and hasn’t gotten any heat for it at all. oes this mean that it’s ok for a man to walk around grinding girls and smacking their asses (which, i don’t know if anyone noticed, he was doing to the dancers while there was the rap bit going on)? Yes, in all aspects this performance was racy, vulgar, however you view it, but yet again, men doing things like this is frowned upon but generally accepted (in some cases congratulated), while women get called whores and sluts. A bit of a double standard if you ask me.
    And in all this, Justin Timberlake was forgotten.

  • Alba B.

    Come ONNNNNNN!!!!! Is this Miley’s blog or Leandra’s Blog?!!!

    Kind of going on manrepeller access strike, while we’re still here writing talking about Miley if she has save the world!!!
    Let’s give Caesar what belongs to Ceasar and talk about real interesting PEOPLE….

  • Wise Brunette

    Ah, yes, the Miley Cyrus VMA debacle. In my opinion, it was an attention grabber and boy did we get the message. Miley has shed her Hannah Montana image for something a little more controversial — perhaps Lady Gaga or Cher circa 1980s. You can find my full take on the event on my blog (linked below). I think Dr. Jill obviously has a point that two parties were involved. Clearly, there’s a foam finger pointed at more than one person in this situation. — Amanda via

  • You got me at “Why do we condemn Cyrus, but exonerate Thicke?”. Damn right. Even though i think “propagating rape culture” part was kind of overrated, i do agree with the double standard. I actually like Miley better now than when she was Hannah Montana. Back then, she was more… restrained. And i thought all the people knew about that. Sadly no. Duh.

  • As for Thicke: Calm down. Listen to the lyrics. It’s not that big of a deal. Just stop wearing such awful suits, buddy – that’s the worst thing about this whole situation.

    As for Miley: She isn’t doing anything more or less than a drunk girl at a frat party or college dance club. Sure, it’s a bit much for TV…and yes, it came off a little desperate. But so do drunk girls at parties/clubs/frat houses. So instead of vilifying her for doing something unseemly, why don’t we just take a deep breath and remember that Miley can’t do anything without the whole world chiming in. We got to get blackout drunk and destroy Madonna songs at Karaoke Night without anyone knowing it happened – so how dare we pass judgement? 😉

  • gem

    Also, the issue with Cyrus’ performance was not so much that she wore a small plastic bikini (or whatever the fuck that was), or grabbed her crotch, and mimicked an orgasm on stage… the issues are that she was using her raunchiness as a way to express herself as an adult because in her mind, she is not a woman of a sexual nature unless she exploits herself in a manner that contradicts feminism. It was try-hard, awkward and made a mockery of her sexuality. (I definitely did not find her tongue very appealing)… CAN WE ALSO TALK ABOUT HOW SHE USED WOMEN OF COLOR AS PROPS?!?!?! Are women of color somehow more sexual than others because of their body shape? As she came on stage she pointed out and slapped a black woman’s ass for a good amount of time. Obviously, she does not know who Sarah Baartman was.
    “Blurred Lines” is misogynistic and promotes rape and raunch culture. Does the line “You da hottest bitch in this place” get my blood boiling whenever I am forced to listen? Absolutely. Rick Ross’ song about giving a girl molly without her knowing it, and having sex with her without her knowing it, has the same effect over me. My point is that male singers and rappers will push the limit as far as we allow. At this point, women and the new generation of feminist men are who need to take action.
    On both parts, the entire performance was disgusting. So out of touch with sexuality but most importantly, completely anti-feminist and RACIST.

  • Lilandra Carrier

    I blamed Thicke for the bad performance as much as Cyrus. BUT my only problem with Miley, and others like her (Rihanna, Britney Spears, etc.) is that these women are role models for our young generation of girls, whether we like it or not. The way they are perceived and how they act in public influence those girls greatly, and I hate what they are teaching. I’m all for people being young and stupid and doing what they want, but idols have a responsibility to their fans to not be selfish and condone this behavior. Or least show that sometimes they can be classy!

  • lenyajones

    Have you seen this parody video by a group of law students in New Zealand –

  • Cecilia

    Let us not forget Nipple Gate with Timberlake and Janet Jackson. She was publicly whipped and treated very badly for a long time. No one said jack about Timberlake and he was just as responsible. We label the woman a whore/slut/trash and leave no responsibility for the guy grinning like a moron enjoying the situation. I personally think there is no racism here just a bad attempt at shock via sexuality. And would people be happy if Miley really knew how to gyrate “properly” like a pole dancer? I think it would have been even more disturbing!!! It was actually kind of comical to me.

  • Sofia

    I personally don’t think ‘Blurred Lines’ said anything more shocking or vulgar than pretty much any rap song has ever said. The video itself I liked and I totally don’t get what the big deal was with it. Nudity? Really? And if your kids are watching the MTV awards on a Sunday night where in the past Lil’ Kim wore only a nipple tassle, Lady Gaga a G string and Madonna has Dry humped the stage…then you need to work on your parenting skills. Or make friends with your TV recorder and omit the offensive parts. Yes, the performance was a little juvenile and talentless but nothing worth reading into this much…

  • Kathy

    Actually I was so distracted by the performance I did not even pay attention to the song, the words or the music! The performance was a low spot for the two I them but if getting attention was te purpose, they accomplished that goal! Maybe we should stop talking about it so it becomes the bad memory it should be!